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New Submissions, Will They Stay?

Fri Mar 26, 2004, 2:53 PM
So today, after more than a year, I decided to throw up a couple of my recent images...

I have been working on some desktops based on elements from each of the album covers by one of my favorite bands, Ministry.

What is intriguing to me at the moment is, I am curious to see how long it will take for someone to remove it and claim it violates some kind of coyright issue, which is crap. Deviantart has thousands of other images that use comic charactors, people from Television and movies and skins based on other (published) operating systems and software titles.

Why is my artwork singled out? I use images I have either taken with my own camera or hand drawn myself (they removed an album cover I painted by hand in 2002, claiming I did not).

My work seems to be a problem with others on DeviantArt, yet they can let others violate the same issues with Winamp skinds, themes and other photo manipulations.

I think the DA admins who make these decisions are uneducated about certain works and go about freely 'deciding' to remove things they THINK violate the rules.

What they need to do is go over more of the artworks and realise that MOST people here get their images from a published source (I said most, not all, I won't respond to people taking that personally).

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  • Current Residence: Gladstone, MO
  • Interests: music, art, Steve Burns new album "Songs for Dustmites"
  • Favourite movie: The Last Emperor
  • Favourite band or musician: Einsturzende Neubauten
  • Favourite genre of music: Industrial / Electronic
  • Favourite artist: deadlysix
  • Favourite poet or writer: Jim Carroll / Henry Rollins
  • Favourite photographer: Anton Corbijn
  • Favourite style of art: Photo Manipulation
  • Operating System: FreeBSD and XP Pro
  • MP3 player of choice: Winamp 5
  • Shell of choice: bash
  • Skin of choice: monochroma (forever)
  • Favourite game: Command and Conquer
  • Favourite gaming platform: Gamecube
  • Favourite cartoon character: Jay (Clerks Cartoon)
  • Personal Quote: HAGADAGA!!!
  • Tools of the Trade: Scanner, Photoshop, Gimp, Camra. Pencil

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:iconyashar:
So today, after more than a year, I decided to throw up a couple of my recent images...

I have been working on some desktops based on elements from each of the album covers by one of my favorite bands, Ministry.

What is intriguing to me at the moment is, I am curious to see how long it will take for someone to remove it and claim it violates some kind of coyright issue, which is crap. Deviantart has thousands of other images that use comic charactors, people from Television and movies and skins based on other (published) operating systems and software titles.

Why is my artwork singled out? I use images I have either taken with my own camera or hand drawn myself (they removed an album cover I painted by hand in 2002, claiming I did not).

My work seems to be a problem with others on DeviantArt, yet they can let others violate the same issues with Winamp skinds, themes and other photo manipulations.

I think the DA admins who make these decisions are uneducated about certain works and go about freely 'deciding' to remove things they THINK violate the rules.

What they need to do is go over more of the artworks and realise that MOST people here get their images from a published source (I said most, not all, I won't respond to people taking that personally).
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A great skin, and I dig the Fruity Loops. Excellent work!
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:iconyashar:
Today I recieved a notice that one of my own works, a hand painted recreation of Frank Zappa's Zoot Allures album cover was some sort of violation of the deviantart rules! This work has been here for almost two years wasn't it?

I find it a bit odd that someone has taken it upon themselves to call my work any sort of violation. My work is all mostly done by hand. I have been hand drawing and painting my favorite music images since I was a kid and have no less than 30 years doing it (I am 34 now!).

I find it a bit odd that without any question or even warning to me I am flat out accused of violation (I still don't know of what) of the devianart rules and "etiquette" as it was called. I left the following reply:

devart sent me an email accuing me, I say "are you stoned?"

"Disobey the rules previously set forth and you shall succomb to the circumstances at hand ..."

I am really curious (and amused) now. I get an email saying you removed my artwork from your site, that's fine. But what I would like to know is

A) who decided my artwork was not my own work and
B) Who decided my work was in violation of the deviantart policy?
C) Who will be replacing a copy of it and returning it to me?

I am well aware of policy and what it implies? It's funny that of the works I have done, the one someone decided on thier own to remove was one that I did on my own by hand!

Wouldn't it be "policy" to also let me know if there was "possible" violation before anyone decided on thier own to point finger and say I was "guilty"? Wouldn't it be proper "etiquitte" to base thier finding on some facts before taking it upon themselves to decide my work was not an original?

I will await with great intrest any challenge or proof that my Zoot Alllures recreation of the album cover was in any way a copy, scan, or direct reproduction of the original in any way. Especially since it was not!

A violation of any copyright would seem appropriate and I would even agree if it were the case here. But the fact of the matter is, I painted that image by hand, then reproduced it for my own computer, then did further manipulation.

The acusation by whoever took it upon themselves (obviously) to call it such is unjust, without proof of any kind and pretty much laughable! If there is no resulotion to this, or at least a return of my work to my site, then there might be a question of deviantart's own worthiness and reputation to myself and friends. And I will question my use of deviantart for my works or any in the future.

It's odd that I recieved this note as I was preparing 21 new works in a series that I was about to release to deviantart. But I shall hold on to that idea until some kind of resolve can come of this one.

Thanks,
Jason A Cortright (user: yashar)

---------------part of the email sent to me---------------
devart said the following:

yashar,

The deviation listed below has been removed from deviantART due to violations of our policies:
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Deviation: Zoot Allures (mkc-65-26-20-197.kc.rr.com)
Date: 6/26/2001
Category: Wallpaper
Section: Photo Manipulated
Views: 76
Downloads: 23
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You are receiving this note because you violated the deviantART submission policy and/or the etiquette policy. To refresh your memory, these policies state the following, in short:
---------------part of the email sent to me---------------


Photo manipulation of a photo of my own hand painted work, I might add...
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